Snowy_River
Jul 12, 06:40 PM
I'm sorry if my comment came off as being snide.
But it really bothers me when people post how wonderful an app is and how useful it is and how it completely replaces a much more expensive app. When in reality it is only a simple consumer level product.
Others read this forum and buy Pages thinking that they can eliminate the use of Word. Then they find out that it really isn't that compatible with Word files. If you email a windows user a .doc file exported from pages, 7 times out of 10 they have problems with it.
Most pro printshops, publishers, law firms etc. only except word .doc files. Almost all law firms require a revision history. Collaboration tools are useally also required. Word handles this expertly. Plus it has table of contents tools, book publishing tools, bibliography tools, direct faxing,multitudes of custom templates, VB programing hooks, etc. etc. None of this has an equivalent in Pages.
I'm glad you found a solution to your problem and I am glad that Pages satisfies your needs for word processing. Maybe someday it will move out of the "consumer" ranks and into the "Pro" ranks when more functionality is added. Apple seems to know the niche that they are addressing very well.
I've been using Pages since it first came out, and I've exchanged documents that were exported from Pages into Word format with other users without any problems. In general, of all word processors that I've worked with (and I've tried out quite a few), Pages has some of the best Word compatibility that I've seen. (That's not to say that I haven't seen some things move - i.e. graphics - on export, but the errors, if any, are generally minor).
To go back to the CAD analogy, in years gone by AutoCAD was the only CAD program, for all intents and purposes. Any new CAD programs were frequently measured, first and foremost, by their ability to exchange documents with AutoCAD. Of course, there was never a perfect ability to make such exchanges, as AutoDesk (makers of AutoCAD) kept the definitions of the dwg file format secret, and usually changed it from one version to the next. So, it made import/export difficult for the competitors, much like what MS does with Office. Did the fact that the exchanges weren't perfect mean that companies who chose to use other CAD packages weren't really professionals? No.
Again, these are just tools.
Will Pages fit the bill for everyone? Of course not. Does MS Word fit the bill for everyone? No. That's why there are different products out there. Certainly, Pages is not as feature rich (you named some specifics, though you missed some of Pages features in your citation ;) ) as MS Word. It's also a much younger program. Is it going to be a Word Killer? Probably not for the foreseeable future. But it's quite capable of doing what probably 90% of what the Word users out there use Word for. If the other 10% are stupid enough to buy it without checking to see whether or not it has the features that they need to do their jobs, then they deserve to have their money go to Apple.
Oh, and what's this about "pro print shops" only taking Word files? I've never been to a print shop that didn't like PDF.
But it really bothers me when people post how wonderful an app is and how useful it is and how it completely replaces a much more expensive app. When in reality it is only a simple consumer level product.
Others read this forum and buy Pages thinking that they can eliminate the use of Word. Then they find out that it really isn't that compatible with Word files. If you email a windows user a .doc file exported from pages, 7 times out of 10 they have problems with it.
Most pro printshops, publishers, law firms etc. only except word .doc files. Almost all law firms require a revision history. Collaboration tools are useally also required. Word handles this expertly. Plus it has table of contents tools, book publishing tools, bibliography tools, direct faxing,multitudes of custom templates, VB programing hooks, etc. etc. None of this has an equivalent in Pages.
I'm glad you found a solution to your problem and I am glad that Pages satisfies your needs for word processing. Maybe someday it will move out of the "consumer" ranks and into the "Pro" ranks when more functionality is added. Apple seems to know the niche that they are addressing very well.
I've been using Pages since it first came out, and I've exchanged documents that were exported from Pages into Word format with other users without any problems. In general, of all word processors that I've worked with (and I've tried out quite a few), Pages has some of the best Word compatibility that I've seen. (That's not to say that I haven't seen some things move - i.e. graphics - on export, but the errors, if any, are generally minor).
To go back to the CAD analogy, in years gone by AutoCAD was the only CAD program, for all intents and purposes. Any new CAD programs were frequently measured, first and foremost, by their ability to exchange documents with AutoCAD. Of course, there was never a perfect ability to make such exchanges, as AutoDesk (makers of AutoCAD) kept the definitions of the dwg file format secret, and usually changed it from one version to the next. So, it made import/export difficult for the competitors, much like what MS does with Office. Did the fact that the exchanges weren't perfect mean that companies who chose to use other CAD packages weren't really professionals? No.
Again, these are just tools.
Will Pages fit the bill for everyone? Of course not. Does MS Word fit the bill for everyone? No. That's why there are different products out there. Certainly, Pages is not as feature rich (you named some specifics, though you missed some of Pages features in your citation ;) ) as MS Word. It's also a much younger program. Is it going to be a Word Killer? Probably not for the foreseeable future. But it's quite capable of doing what probably 90% of what the Word users out there use Word for. If the other 10% are stupid enough to buy it without checking to see whether or not it has the features that they need to do their jobs, then they deserve to have their money go to Apple.
Oh, and what's this about "pro print shops" only taking Word files? I've never been to a print shop that didn't like PDF.
peapody
Jan 30, 09:39 PM
Just went there for the first time yesterday to be disappointed =/
Expensive and nothing special. The Habit is a better option imo :)
Aw I hate it when food is disappointing. I have never had The Habbit, so maybe that is why my five guys burger was delicious haha.
Expensive and nothing special. The Habit is a better option imo :)
Aw I hate it when food is disappointing. I have never had The Habbit, so maybe that is why my five guys burger was delicious haha.
milo
Jul 21, 01:20 PM
5-7% is possible. Don't ever expect Apple to get above 10 again though.
Why not?
I think there's some upper limit that apple may hit, I just don't see why it would be as low as 10%.
Generic businesses will likely stay with windows for quite a while, regardless of what apple does. But I don't see any reason many creative businesses, schools and home users couldn't switch to macs.
Why not?
I think there's some upper limit that apple may hit, I just don't see why it would be as low as 10%.
Generic businesses will likely stay with windows for quite a while, regardless of what apple does. But I don't see any reason many creative businesses, schools and home users couldn't switch to macs.
goodcow
Jun 6, 01:11 PM
This is like the risk of using the 1-Click Ordering feature at amazon.com.
Not really, because you can refuse delivery of a package for a full refund off Amazon. Digital content like Apps are generally non-refundable.
Not really, because you can refuse delivery of a package for a full refund off Amazon. Digital content like Apps are generally non-refundable.
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dongmin
Jul 26, 11:05 AM
but who would want to have a full featured iTunes when you still haven't solved the problem of typing. The most efficient part for me is to type out what you're looking for. I do, however, see the advantage to making playlists more efficiently on the go, giving you the ability to shuffle anything you choose, not just "All Songs" which is a bother. :)Text input can be addressed in a lot of different ways. Bluetooth portable keyboards, for example. If I got a tablet, I'd also get myself a foldable keyboard to take along with me. Or you can make do with a virtual keyboard activated by gestures (2nd image):
http://images.appleinsider.com/patent-ipod-touch17i.gif
http://images.appleinsider.com/patent-ipod-touch17i.gif
mkjj
Jul 25, 08:55 AM
Notice the new MM BT works from one OR two batteries, that's clever!
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twoodcc
Sep 18, 11:24 PM
anyone with a newer mac pro or xserve can kill in the stats. should be a nice incentive. i am excited about mac folding for the first time in a while
i wonder how the octo 2.26 does
i wonder how the octo 2.26 does
Dwalls90
Apr 22, 04:39 PM
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 4_3_2 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/533.17.9 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/5.0.2 Mobile/8H7 Safari/6533.18.5)
Hope not...
Hope not...
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slidingjon
Aug 18, 07:50 AM
What's the next logical step in a computer interface? I used to say "Computer, show me the money" to open Quicken back in pre-OS X days. More of a gimmick than anything else, but imagine if the Finder and maybe even other apps became "speakable."
Me: "Check mail"
Computer: "You have nine new messages. Would you like me to read them?"
Me: "No, thanks."
(clicks on an email, reads message)
Me: "Reply to this message"
Computer: "Type or speak?
Me: "Type"
type-type-type
Me: "Computer, I'd like to add a photo of the kids to this email."
Computer: "iphoto has 6,813 pictures of the kids, which one would you like?"
Me: "One from the birthday party last week."
Computer: (a strip from iphoto appears) "Here are 23 from last week. I've highlighted the one where your wife fixed the red eye. Is that the one you want?"
Me: "Yes, that will be fine."
Computer adds the picture to stationery in the email, other pictures go away.
Me: "Send the email"
Me: "...and order me a pizza."
This kind of thing can't be too far off. A 75 mhz Performa could do it in a rudimentary way. Imagine what a modern Mac may be able to do. "Speakeasy" has a nice ring to it.
You watch too much Star Trek. It's still a computer, not a digital house servant. Although..... that would be pretty cool. "Computer, go make me a sandwich."
Me: "Check mail"
Computer: "You have nine new messages. Would you like me to read them?"
Me: "No, thanks."
(clicks on an email, reads message)
Me: "Reply to this message"
Computer: "Type or speak?
Me: "Type"
type-type-type
Me: "Computer, I'd like to add a photo of the kids to this email."
Computer: "iphoto has 6,813 pictures of the kids, which one would you like?"
Me: "One from the birthday party last week."
Computer: (a strip from iphoto appears) "Here are 23 from last week. I've highlighted the one where your wife fixed the red eye. Is that the one you want?"
Me: "Yes, that will be fine."
Computer adds the picture to stationery in the email, other pictures go away.
Me: "Send the email"
Me: "...and order me a pizza."
This kind of thing can't be too far off. A 75 mhz Performa could do it in a rudimentary way. Imagine what a modern Mac may be able to do. "Speakeasy" has a nice ring to it.
You watch too much Star Trek. It's still a computer, not a digital house servant. Although..... that would be pretty cool. "Computer, go make me a sandwich."
toddybody
Apr 25, 12:15 PM
Yeah, Im going to listen to someone like this...
http://edopeno.com/images/2011/01/BrianTong.jpg
http://edopeno.com/images/2011/01/BrianTong.jpg
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ayeying
Oct 25, 05:21 PM
Does anyone know when GPU folding would be around... kinda wanna put my CUDA to use in OSX and not in Windows 7 here. I'm pumping out 12 minutes per frame using the 9400M
rxse7en
Jul 28, 08:56 AM
The OP statement was that the 360 was the only HD player on the market right now. Which clearly isn't true. Upscaling isn't HD in my book. But that is me.
I think the OP was talking about game play in HD. I've tried the component HD cable for my PS2 on my plasma HDTV and it's nicer, but it's only 480p at best, depending on the title. I use an upscaling DVD player that outputs to 1080i and though it is HD, it still doesn't have the image data of a true HD title. The only time I've been able to see REAL HD is through my DishTV HD programming--again, depending on the source--or connecting a Mac to the plasma and viewing Apple's HD trailers. You're right though, the HD content still isn't readily available.
Read a rumor about MS dropping the price of the 360 by $100 for the holidays to help combat the release of the PS3. That would put it almost half the price of the PS3!
I think the OP was talking about game play in HD. I've tried the component HD cable for my PS2 on my plasma HDTV and it's nicer, but it's only 480p at best, depending on the title. I use an upscaling DVD player that outputs to 1080i and though it is HD, it still doesn't have the image data of a true HD title. The only time I've been able to see REAL HD is through my DishTV HD programming--again, depending on the source--or connecting a Mac to the plasma and viewing Apple's HD trailers. You're right though, the HD content still isn't readily available.
Read a rumor about MS dropping the price of the 360 by $100 for the holidays to help combat the release of the PS3. That would put it almost half the price of the PS3!
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Apple OC
May 1, 10:27 PM
Are you sure it wasn't UK forces who eliminated him? Either way, you gotta say "he was killed by allied forces".
President Obama will let us know soon ... it is being reported that it was an intelligence mission carried out by US forces
President Obama will let us know soon ... it is being reported that it was an intelligence mission carried out by US forces
Loves2spoon
Mar 10, 07:14 PM
Poor Jon Cryer... They should give him a spin off!
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creator2456
Sep 14, 09:00 PM
http://cdn.bowlingball.com/ProductImages/3375-lp-1.jpg
Getting my bowling ball redrilled and resurfaced in preparation for league play.
http://www.weberbowlingandawards.com/shop/images/Choppa.png
Also needed new shoes.
Getting my bowling ball redrilled and resurfaced in preparation for league play.
http://www.weberbowlingandawards.com/shop/images/Choppa.png
Also needed new shoes.
Frisco
Jul 21, 07:57 PM
Sorry guys. I was asking how much of Apple does Bill Gates actually own via stock, not the market share that Apple has. This info is very hard to find.
Microsoft bought 150 million in non-voting stock. Hardly a controlling interest. They have since sold most if not all of that stock for a tidy profit. Apple in turn dropped the "Look and Feel" lawsuit (which they weren't going to win anyway) and MS promised updates to "Office" and IE. Microsoft has NO significant financial stake in Apple.
See this (http://forums.macrumors.com/archive/index.php/t-18155.html)
Microsoft bought 150 million in non-voting stock. Hardly a controlling interest. They have since sold most if not all of that stock for a tidy profit. Apple in turn dropped the "Look and Feel" lawsuit (which they weren't going to win anyway) and MS promised updates to "Office" and IE. Microsoft has NO significant financial stake in Apple.
See this (http://forums.macrumors.com/archive/index.php/t-18155.html)
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Surely
Sep 15, 07:39 PM
^^^^
WHAT... is that? :eek:
It's a Hexbug. I bought it at Brookstone today.
It's a robot.
http://www.hexbug.com/
I want to get the inchworm next.
WHAT... is that? :eek:
It's a Hexbug. I bought it at Brookstone today.
It's a robot.
http://www.hexbug.com/
I want to get the inchworm next.
leog
Apr 29, 03:14 PM
Cool, I buy all my music from Amazon's mp3 store anyways!
NightFox
Mar 31, 12:41 PM
Maybe it is universal - perhaps in Lion every OS application/Finder window toolbar is going to be in pimp-style leather? :o
RavageScourge
Nov 16, 04:38 PM
I am getting an iPhone now YAY, along with a �30/mo contract but the phone costs �149 so the �149 is my christmas present... then i'll have a macbook (got that 2 months ago and loving it) and an iPhone two things i've wanted for ages
cosmokanga2
May 3, 09:04 AM
Sweet new iMacs but the animations on the apple.com/iMac image gallery on the iPad are so cool!
daneoni
Sep 14, 10:48 PM
Amazon
http://www.amazon.com/will-not-fix-your-computer/dp/B0001TP7BW
Cheers.
On topic: I got this today. It was either this or 8GB o RAM. I went with the cheaper option.
http://www.amazon.com/will-not-fix-your-computer/dp/B0001TP7BW
Cheers.
On topic: I got this today. It was either this or 8GB o RAM. I went with the cheaper option.
stroked
Apr 26, 08:09 PM
The displayed here by some members is disheartening to say the least. I feel for the woman who was beaten and hope she had a speedy recovery.
transphobia That's a new one. It's almost as funny as the visual I got with a dude at the urinal with D cups.
transphobia That's a new one. It's almost as funny as the visual I got with a dude at the urinal with D cups.
zildjansg
Nov 2, 03:26 AM
Canon 200mm f/2?
Me too.
Canon EF 300mm f2.8L USM IS:D
Me too.
Canon EF 300mm f2.8L USM IS:D
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